
bypass. Douin: I like the idea of categorizing it separately. My
other thought is emergent cases, those are a different subset of
cases and may strongly influence temperature management.
Janda: Do we want to exclude them or include emergency cases
and flag them? Mathis: emergency cases are going to matter
the most. Those are the cases where we can make a difference
vs. straight forward CABG which may not matter that much.
b. Janda: Regarding picking very specific types of cases (HCA or
ECMO) are at the mercy of the quality of the data and how they
are binned. We also have a predicted CPT that has a complex
algorithm and some of the fringe cases could slip through. Part
of the process will be to validate and review the cases.
Abernathy: Is this just temperature at the end of the case? With
what clarification? Why exclude any case? Is there ever a case
that hypothermia leaving the OR is desired? If there isn’t that
case, I would argue to include all cases. Mathis: One thing to
consider is to be able to compare apples to apples, which not
the sole goal of the measure. Are you an outlier because you
have a certain cohort of patients that are more challenging? Any
exclusion criteria we apply can be turned off for research. For
getting some sense of where we stand it will be some effort and
to have truncating at the edges is helpful. Janda: One fringe
case is TVAR where the surgeon refuses to turn on the bair
hugger and that will be determined by practice patterns. When
we get into other measure development, such as glucose
management, we can hone into those, but we are intentionally
leaving this patient at 35.5. Varelmann: Hypothermia leads to
SSI and other complications. Janda: Agreed, some of the
literature focused on surgical site infection and bleeding, which
implies the existence of an incision/sternotomy/larger surgery.
That may be a good reason to limit the group to open cardiac
cases since the temperature management could matter more in
those patients as opposed to a 2 hour TAVR. What is most
helpful for you and your team? Mathis: One other consideration
is that this is just a starting point. What do we want to see as
the first number? If you are interested in a particular sub-
population, you can add filters. Shook: If you can do it for all
the cases and I can easily filter, that is great. If you are going to
do it one way across institutions, I would like to see the first
cases to be pump cases. For my institutions, I would want to see
cases in all ways so I can first see how we are doing at my
institution. Fisher: If we are looking for comparison across
hospitals, I would weed out hypothermic cases because if your
site does not do many, you may think you’re in line with other
sites. Abernathy: If the goal is to leave the room warm and
measure the temperature of the room then it doesn’t matter. I
agree this should be limited to pump cases. Muehlschlegel: The
temperature drop after the case can be dramatic. Janda:
Agreed, I would favor including these HCA cases so when that